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A Reality Check for Soon-to-be-Grads

April 6th, 2010 ::

by Sarah Morgan

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One of the What’s Next, Gen Y? bloggers, Thomas Madrecki, recently posted about trying to figure out what to do upon graduation.

Few things are more obnoxious than hearing from someone older that you’re mistaken because of your youth, so it’s with misgivings that I set out to do exactly that, especially because it’s obvious that Thomas is both intelligent and successful and I don’t want to take issue with him in particular. But what struck me in his post was this:

“The idea, of course, is that work-place competition and increased selectivity in turn engenders more successful paid hires in a tightly budgeted and relatively small industry. All of that is well and good, but even for the most confident of applicants, the idea of heading to a new city with no guarantee of long-term growth or a permanent job is a potentially worrisome hurdle to overcome.”

This started the wheels turning for me. Yes, competition and selectivity IS well and good. And “worrisome” is, often, a fact of life. The thing is, the system is not set up to care about the feelings of new entrants to it.

What bothers me is that frequently, undergrads are called out for having unrealistic expectations or for being entitled — and nobody fixes it. There are increasingly job-specific undergrad offerings, but still, no Reality 101. Sometimes parents or internships explain what you’ll need to wrap your head around, but many times, graduating seniors are in for a woeful shock.

So here I am to shock you. You don’t have to like what I’m going to say. I didn’t. But please believe that the sooner you accept it, the sooner you get through it.

You will be lonely at first. Your career so far has been education, in the company of a peer group that was growing together. You won’t have that company in the same way again, and it’ll be a jarring difference in life.

  • You will be the butt of jokes about your youth. These include, but are not limited to, references about musical acts, fashion trends, and which president was in office when you were born.
  • You will make friends with whom you have far less in common than your friends to this point. The work force makes college — yes, every college — look like a military school of conformity.
  • You will not understand where your coworkers are coming from.

You will have to do what your elders will refer to as paying your dues. This will be maddening. You’ll have a thousand very good reasons why it’s nonsense. It will happen anyway.

  • You will lose out on something due to office politics, outside relationships or tenure.
  • You will have to work later than your boss.
  • You will have to do stuff that is boring.
  • You will not get paid as much as you want.

You won’t know anything. Yes, despite all that you just went through to learn all that.

  • You will only use about 15% of your degree. The rest of what you find yourself doing will come from your experience with clubs, roommates, activities and internships.
  • You will want to use the theory that you learned. Nobody has the money or the support to work on those theories.
  • You will do things because that’s how your boss wants them, even when you have a better idea.

You will have to fight to be taken seriously.

  • You will get the same reaction as a precocious child at the grown-ups’ table when you first begin to try to contribute. Keep doing it anyway.
  • You will learn to get to the point faster. There aren’t any more assignments where you have to hit a maximum. Cut everything you want to explain in half.
  • You will, in five years’ time, either laugh or cringe about 90% of what is upsets you right now (just think about five years ago). Keep this in mind before unburdening yourself on your coworkers. They’ll be understanding, but you want to be taken seriously, not just understood.

Please don’t despair. I’m only telling you the bad parts on purpose. You’ll see them coming and they won’t sting as much. And you can enjoy the rest of it that much more. The good parts are fun and surprising and there’s no need to prepare for them. Congratulations and have fun!

Sarah Morgan has a decade of experience working in and with the top pharmaceutical companies in the world. She educates corporations, organizations, universities and media about social media; blogs at sarah-morgan.com; Twitters at twitter.com/sarahmorgan; appears professionally at linkedin.com/sarahmorgan, informally at facebook.com/profile.php?id=10908629, and in real life in the glorious state of New Jersey. (Yes, New Jersey.)

The Rules of Recruiters… and Why Commitment Matters to Them as Much as it Does the Guy You're Dating

March 29th, 2010 ::

by Allison Kapner

So rather than go in a boring step-by-step order and continuing with Step 2, I’m going to share a bit about working with recruiters… which, in the dating world, translates into dating guys that are just out for one thing.

For those of you who don’t understand the face of recruiting, times have changed. Employers used to hire recruiters for all levels and all functions. During the recession, companies began realizing how much they were spending on agency fees and started creating strategies around working with recruiters.

Internal HR staff are now trained to make cold calls and use social media to reach out for certain positions. So, for example, analyst roles most likely will not go through recruiters because of the number of applicants who apply on their own. Ask yourself, why would a company pay a VERY hefty fee for me when I can apply directly and not go through a third party?

So while recruiters who are experts in their field can be extremely helpful and add value, if you’re young and inexperienced, I wouldn’t count on a recruiter landing you your first job.

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Recruiters – of the internal and external sort – can be your best friend or worst enemy. They can act as the gatekeepers to your dream employer, or can be the reason you don’t get your dream job. The genuine ones (such as me in my past life) care about you and put your needs first even if it means missing a deal. They do this because they know and respect good karma. The ruthless recruiters are only focused on you as a dollar sign. Recruiters, by nature, stay on top of their star candidates, the people who can actually interview successfully for the roles they are looking to fill. They woo you, keep you on their good side and walk you through the interview process. The second you mess up or the client decides to “pass,” you are back to the starting line until another job comes along that you’re the PERFECT person for.

The funny thing is, the worst thing you can do to a recruiter is work with other recruiters. They’ll say whatever it takes to keep you from others because they don’t make money if someone else places you…which leads me to a dating story and point that recruiters and men (sorry guys!) can in fact consciously or subconsciously share the same mentality.

I once met a guy – we’ll call him Aaron – who has an intense personality and acts as someone who is driven and motivated. For the first few weeks of knowing each other, he contacted me. I didn’t think much of it and didn’t respond much. In fact, he was upset that I wouldn’t friend him on Facebook. I was impartial. (Similar to how most candidates are in a good market when approached by a recruiter.) He persisted and we went out to a three-hour first date dinner. It was great. He wanted to know all about me (1st interview or “screening” per a recruiter) and I “passed” round one. He suggested going to get ice cream a few days later, and after going to four places and striking out four times trying to get ice cream, Aaron finally figured out a way to find us ice cream. I was impressed, he was creative and innovative. (Similar to a recruiter getting you a first round interview, if you’re a strong candidate, they’ll do whatever it takes.) This continued and things were going well. A few weeks into it, I decided it was time for me to finally give in and be nice and after him asking many times for a housewarming gift (weird, yes), I brought over cookie dough as a housewarming gift.

Stop the presses!! From then on, every time I received a text or spoke to him, the question was “how many guys do you bring cookies to?” Well, he obviously couldn’t handle the idea of me dating other people and he freaked himself out (later apologizing, then falling off the face of the earth). In his apology, he admitted he freaked himself out because he wasn’t ready for someone who would expect something out of him but he was too insecure to have me date others.

Moral of the story: If you can’t make a recruiter a quick buck or be a quickie to a shady guy, you’ll get dropped – and fast – which is probably for the better.

Second moral: Keep your options open until a recruiter asks you to only work with them (or until a guy asks you for a commitment). Don’t give either the satisfaction of being your one and only unless they prove themselves worthy.


Allison Kapner headshotAllison Kapner is a Relationship Manager in Career Services at the Johns Hopkins University Carey Business School where she is responsible for building partnerships with employers to ultimately create job and internship opportunities for students and alumni. She also advises and coaches students on job search techniques and brings a unique corporate expertise to assist candidates, as her past experience was as an Executive Recruiter in financial services in New York City.

How are dating and searching for a job the same? Pt 2

March 22nd, 2010 ::

by Allison Kapner

… Continued from my last blog post.

Step 1: Finding the date, finding the Job….What’s the Difference? NOTHING!

My last blog examined some of the different media outlets for job and mate searching. We continue that discussion below with other sourcing techniques used.

Networking

Human Neworking

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hikingartist/ / CC BY-ND 2.0

Your Personal Networks
The best way to land a job (or a man or woman) is through friends, colleagues, family and people you know. Network, network, network. If you’re looking for a job, tell people you know and trust. (The trust part is important if you already have a job and don’t want your employer to know you’re looking.) Likewise, if you’re single, make it known you’re open to dating. Don’t act desperate, but realize that you never know who people know or what other circles they run in.

If you do make a connection – job or personal – through your network, manage the process wisely: Make sure that you remove the person who set you up. You don’t want it to be awkward for the middle-man if things don’t work out. I’ve gone out with many friends of friends, colleagues of friends, etc. and I’ve never ruined a friendship. The same goes for job searching. If your uncle sets you up with a company that you end up not liking, remain professional and leave things on a positive note.

And if you’re the connector: Make the intro and then REMOVE yourself. Otherwise it will backfire. I guarantee it.

Happy Hour and the “scene”
More often than not, when you go to happy hour you will meet like-people that can help you for dating and job hunting. (It’s foolish to approach a happy hour – and happy hour – as merely a social situation.) Take advantage of this. Again, you never know who someone’s network is. Plus, many bars have specials, so it can be easy on your wallet. How can you use this to your advantage in your job search? Find out where the company you want to work for is located. Chances are the neighborhood bar is their after work spot. Make it yours as well.

The more obvious happy hour – job search connection are the myriad of professional networking events (as well as social meet ups and groups) that happen every day. Take advantage of people looking for the same things as you!

When you’re starting to feel down, you MUST remember for both, it’s all about…

….Timing
When all else fails, just remind yourself, it’s all about timing. Being in the right place at the right time when the other person/people are in the right place at the right time can and will change your life both personally and professionally.

…Believing
The second you feel defeated in your job search (or dating), you’re not setting yourself up for the next best thing. Keeping the optimism and faith that it will work out will be your strength when it seems that you’ll never get the call for the interview… or find that perfect mate. You must believe they will both come (see timing).

…Smiling
A smile says a gazillion words and can be all it takes to secure your next move.

Allison Kapner headshotAllison Kapner is a Relationship Manager in Career Services at the Johns Hopkins University Carey Business School where she is responsible for building partnerships with employers to ultimately create job and internship opportunities for students and alumni. She also advises and coaches students on job search techniques and brings a unique corporate expertise to assist candidates, as her past experience was as an Executive Recruiter in financial services in New York City.

You Have Questions… We Have Answers!

March 17th, 2010 ::

by Robin Ferrier

Question mark made of puzzle pieces

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I’ve said it before — in my “welcome” post and on our “about us” page — but I think it bears repeating: This blog is about you.

Why is this important? Because sure, we’re all experts at some level and can write about what we think you need to know. But you’re the ones out there every day living in this world of job searching, interviewing, etc.

So I want to encourage you to send us your questions. What do you want to know about this process? An etiquette question? Resume troubles? Cover letter confusion? No question too small!

So let us know. Email me your question and the appropriate blogger — or bloggers — will post your question (without your name) and a response. I promise!

Robin Ferrier is the editor of What’s Next, Gen Y? and Communications Manager for the Johns Hopkins University Montgomery County Campus. She is also the President of the Capital Communicators Group and the co-chair of the Marketing Committee for the Tech Council of Maryland. She has inadvertently become a frequent career / professional / job hunt resource for friends and colleagues due to a career path that has included five jobs in 12 years.

How are dating and searching for a job the same?

March 15th, 2010 ::

by Allison Kapner

Let’s examine Step 1: Sourcing your date or job lead through the internet.

Doll at a computer

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Step 1: Finding the date, finding the Job….What’s the Difference? NOTHING!

So how do you go about finding a new job and a new mate? This post could really go on for days. In fact, I could probably do a PhD on the topic, but I’m trying to keep this fairly concise.

Back in the day you would pick up the newspaper every day, circle the classified ads that looked appealing, fax in your resume and hope for the best. (Believe it or not, in 2004, I actually got my first job this way!) Nowadays there are endless job search engines, job boards, recruiting agencies and other ways to find jobs using the internet. Talk about information overload!

Back in the day, parents set up arranged marriages, or maybe you and the neighbor across the street were stuck with each other because there were so few options for meeting new people. Dating wasn’t socially accepted the way it is today. Nowadays, there singles events, meet-ups, speed dating, online dating… and the world of online dating is segmented out for every type of person: fitness singles, eHarmony, Jdate, etc. The list goes on and one. Seeing a theme? Information overload!

The Internet: Broken out by effort level, where do you look?

Least amount of work – job search: The most common sites are obviously Monster, Yahoo! HotJobs, CareerBuilder, etc. You scroll, search around and stalk these boards and assume every single job that’s available in life will be posted there. (Hint: They’re not.) LinkedIn has become an obvious tool, and over the past few years, LinkedIn has really grown and been a huge asset when used correctly. Twitter and Facebook are now jumping on the job search bandwagon. My point? The jobs that are blasted to the public result in thousands of applicants for each job, and for some reason people apply to jobs no matter whether they meet the qualifications or not.

Least amount of work – dating: Post on Match.com. I used Match.com once in my life while in NY. The result? People of all shapes and sizes banging down my door. Why? Because it’s easy. You post a quick profile and picture and that’s that. People can contact you as long as you pay and you don’t have to do much work other than throw up a profile.

Large amount of work and focus – job search: If you are really focused – and truly want to be successful – you will go to specific companies’ websites, register (if needed), and stalk properly until they post your dream job, then wait for days, weeks, sometimes months until you watch the job disappear or you get that magical call. You’ll be targeted and strategic and put a lot of work and research into finding the “right” companies.

Large amount of work and focus – dating: Sign up for eHarmony or other sites that make you actually do work. I’ve used it, and wow do they put you through the ringer. If you think someone is attractive, chances are they are too “shy” to use the fast-track way of communicating, which means you go through about a 10-step process just to get to writing emails to each other. But eHarmony is more targeted. They send you matches based on a values profile you fill out. You hope that the system matches people who share similar beliefs and values….and I do have to say the work may be worth it sometimes.

Feeling lucky?
If you are feeling lucky with your job search, check out Craigslist. I’ve randomly heard people that have had found a great job posted there. (It is free after all, a lot of smaller companies tend to use it as a tool.) But watch out for sleazy sales jobs. They try to hit the masses with them. One small piece of advice: I’ve know someone who has tried to date through Craigslist. You probably won’t have the same good luck. I recommend staying away from the single classifieds.

To be continued…


Allison Kapner headshotAllison Kapner is a Relationship Manager in Career Services at the Johns Hopkins University Carey Business School where she is responsible for building partnerships with employers to ultimately create job and internship opportunities for students and alumni. She also advises and coaches students on job search techniques and brings a unique corporate expertise to assist candidates, as her past experience was as an Executive Recruiter in financial services in New York City.

Finding the Perfect, Perhaps Unlisted, Top Secret, No One Knows About It Job

March 11th, 2010 ::

by Robin Ferrier

Quiet Please sign

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So if you’ve done any reading on how to undertake a job search you’ve probably heard some variation of the following sentiments:

  • There are a lot of jobs out there that just aren’t listed.
  • It’s not what you know, it’s who you know.
  • The most important thing in a job hunt is network, network, network.

Maybe you’re thinking those are all crazy sentiments. Or maybe you’re unsure how to feel about them. Need proof of this sentiment? A story from a colleague, with the names redacted to protect the innocent:

“So two days ago I was called to provide a reference for a previous intern of mine for her new job at [COMPANY]. The recruiter was very nice, super friendly etc.

“Out of the blue she said ‘I wish you were looking for a job’ and of course I said, ‘Actually I am.’

“Now I have a job interview this morning with the recruiter for [JOB TITLE] at [DIFFERENT COMPANY]!!!!”

Sure, in this case, it was a higher level position, but that doesn’t mean this same theory won’t work for you. (Heck, I got my first interview merely because the person selecting who to interview went to the same school and knew about certain activities in which I’d been involved and what kind of time commitment they’d been on top of my school work.)

My point? While searching for a job, EVERY SINGLE INTERACTION is an opportunity to connect with (and hopefully impress) someone, to discover the perfect (up until now unknown) job opportunity, to get your foot in the door… and you have to approach it as such. Because if you’re searching for a job – just like if you’re a PR person dealing with the media – everything is on the record, no matter what you say.

Robin Ferrier is the editor of What’s Next, Gen Y? and Communications Manager for the Johns Hopkins University Montgomery County Campus. She is also the President of the Capital Communicators Group and the co-chair of the Marketing Committee for the Tech Council of Maryland. She has inadvertently become a frequent career / professional / job hunt resource for friends and colleagues due to a career path that has included five jobs in 12 years.